I met donn through the American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association. he made me feel welcome there, and we had interesting talks about veterinary medicine in general, and especially holistic veterinary medicine. when he was president of ahvma, he ran the board meetings with robert’s rules of order – for the first time in a long time, meetings were organized and orderly. more things got done, with shortermeetings, than they did for many other presidents. when i became executive director, he let me know that if i ever needed anything, he would be happy to help. i will miss him.